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This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:

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no consensus, 2006 April 28, see discussion.

deletion

This article should be deleted as it is contrived as a marketing tool for Boston College and is of no real accurate informational benefit to readers of wikipedia. Perhaps if JFK had made such comments today, when BC is a first rate institution they would be of greater relevence. However, when JFK gave this speech, BC was a local commuter school with an acceptance rate of over 80%. While the "ivy league" connoted prestige, BC carried none. Even within the Catholic community, if one was came from a prominant Catholic family and had high marks they would attend College of the Holy Cross or Georgetown University. BC was an afterthought until through athletic recognition and alumni support it became the great school it is today. My point is this: wikipedia is supposed to be a source of information, not propaganda. BC has done a great job creating a classy wikipedia page, and that is fine, but when it starts creating titles like "Jesuit Ivy" for itself, the 5th ranked university in the Boston area, it is crosses the bias line.

Contributors to this page may be interested in this article, which has been proposed for deletion:

Midwestern Ivy League

Please review the article and provide your input on that article's Votes for Deletion page. - 18.95.1.22 03:54, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

paradox

Is "Jesuit Ivy" really a paradox, as stated, or is it just simply a contradiction? IMHO "paradox" seems a bit off here. Cfallin 10:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I think using contradiction would be a more appropriate description. Paul^C/_T+ 12:11, 21 December 2005 (UTC) (spelling mistake Paul^C/_T+ 19:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC))[reply]

other BC Kennedys

Someone may want to add that Robert F. Kennedy's granddaughter Maeve Kennedy Townsend was in the class of '01 (A&S).

Until Maeve accomplishes anything herself, I don't think she should be mentioned. Droitet 14:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

photo

Rather than a generic photo of the BC campus, why not one that actually shows JFK at BC? I have a copy of the famous one of him with Gasson Tower in the background. I believe it is far use, since it was issued by the White House. This would add context, as suggested in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesuit Ivy page and placate those who claim this article is just BC boosterism. Droitet 15:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded a small version of the photo that I have on my computer, I'll rescan a larger version when I get to a scanner. Droitet 15:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Droitet 20:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Honey Fitz was NOT the first Irish-Catholic Mayor of Boston!!!!

That was Daniel Aloysius Whelton, boyo ....

Clear Bias

"The nickname suggested both Boston College's rising stature and the declining prevalence of discrimination at elite American universities". This couldn't be further from the truth. Boston College nearly went bankrupt in the sixties and did not receive national, let alone elite, status until the 1980s (in part because of Tip O'Neil, Doug Flutie and other prominent graduates). Though it may be interesting that JFK dubbed it the "jesuit ivy", it does not deserve a wikipedia page such as this. I vote for merging this to the BC wikipedia page, possibly even deletion. It is a clearly biased article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.0.85 (talk) 22:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]